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tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say that there was a surveillance tape that shows what apparently is the second suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the man in the hospital, placing the bomb at the second bombing. this is unrelated pict
tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we...
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where tamerlan goes for six months. he flies to moscow. but then, according to his father, he visits chechnya and dagestan. now, who did he visit in chechnya? who did he visit in dagestan? does it have any relationship to these unspecified underground groups that the russians referred to in their original request to the fbi? third, you come back to the united states. by this point he clearly seems to be thoroughly radicalized. he sets up that youtube account filled with jihadjihadi videos. we have reports from radical tendencies even from people within his own mosque. who was he in contact with in the boston area? i think those are the biggest questions now facing investigators and people looking at how the fbi handled this case. >> michael isikoff, i got to leave it there. you're right. we got to figure out did the kgb not tell our guys or russian intelligence not tell our guys everything that they knew at the time? and will they tell us now? anyway, michael, thank you very much. >>> gaggle will be here next. running a little bit late. fi
where tamerlan goes for six months. he flies to moscow. but then, according to his father, he visits chechnya and dagestan. now, who did he visit in chechnya? who did he visit in dagestan? does it have any relationship to these unspecified underground groups that the russians referred to in their original request to the fbi? third, you come back to the united states. by this point he clearly seems to be thoroughly radicalized. he sets up that youtube account filled with jihadjihadi videos. we...
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>> one person we haven't heard much from is tamerlan's wife. what sort of picture do we get of her and what potential information could she provide? >> well, of course, a key potential witness. immediate family members help paint that 360-degree profile of what happened from the time of the event backwards. here's a big however to consider, though. okay? not saying this is associated with the old al qaeda, but like-minded groups tend to pull good tactics off the shelf. in the case of the old al qaeda under bin laden, they were the masters of compartmentalization. we might not be surprised if he kept that information, if not all information, from his wife. now, there's a possibility that she may in some ways have been wh whitting. if he had that type of training, they're very good at the need to know. >> but this is an individual he had a relatively long relationship with. and you're suggesting that he might have been able to hide everything from her? any of his inclinations of hatred toward america if he had that feeling toward america? he woul
>> one person we haven't heard much from is tamerlan's wife. what sort of picture do we get of her and what potential information could she provide? >> well, of course, a key potential witness. immediate family members help paint that 360-degree profile of what happened from the time of the event backwards. here's a big however to consider, though. okay? not saying this is associated with the old al qaeda, but like-minded groups tend to pull good tactics off the shelf. in the case...
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an exclusive against tamerlan. a source in russia tells nbc news russian intelligence reached out to the fbi last november about the 26-year-old. and crime scene units are back at the bomb site in boston right now. they're placing debris into garbage trucks. crews were seen sifting last night throughout that debris. let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i think the odds are pretty good that we'll see these charges in the next couple of hours. they're putting the final touches on them now. and we expect to learn a little more about what the fbi has assembled based on its investigation of the bombing. so perhaps there will be some new details that we'll get. in terms of the charges, i would think at the very least they'll charge him with the bombing, with a terrorism offense for that. and interestingly enough, under the federal statutes, which apply here, use of a weapon of mass destruct
an exclusive against tamerlan. a source in russia tells nbc news russian intelligence reached out to the fbi last november about the 26-year-old. and crime scene units are back at the bomb site in boston right now. they're placing debris into garbage trucks. crews were seen sifting last night throughout that debris. let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i...
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i didn't know he was tamerlan's little brother. had i known that i would have gotten to know him. >> he told investigators it was religion and not a foreign terrorist group that motivated them. did you find them to be religious at all? >> not at all. i knew that they believed in their religion and the standards that were upheld in their country but they never were ones to run around pounding their chest with religion or trying to recruit anyone or bugging anyone else about their religion. they respected life at one point and i don't know what happened. >> you would describe your reaction to when you heard that they were the suspects as shock? stunned? >> shocked. incredibly shocked. it turned from anger like everyone else in the country to being extremely confused and shocked and having to pick up the pieces and see what is going on. i'm really proud of the fact that a lot of people have come around to seeing how it was a good idea to keep little brother alive because it would have put our authorities in a tougher situation. they w
i didn't know he was tamerlan's little brother. had i known that i would have gotten to know him. >> he told investigators it was religion and not a foreign terrorist group that motivated them. did you find them to be religious at all? >> not at all. i knew that they believed in their religion and the standards that were upheld in their country but they never were ones to run around pounding their chest with religion or trying to recruit anyone or bugging anyone else about their...
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his uncle said he ended his relationship with tamerlan in 2009 because of the quote radical crap" tamerlan had begun to espouse. he was steered toward a strict strain of islam in recent years and he began opposing the wars in afghanistan and iraq which is i should note here not radical in and of itself but that he also turned to websites and literature claiming that the cia was behind the terrorist attacks of september 11, 2001, that jews controlled the world. there are two very specific accounts of tamerlan's recent behavior that are both fascinating and important in trying to understand how he might have become the kind of violent extremist he is accused of having been when he died after a shootout with authorities late last week. the first is recounted in "the wall street journal" this week. quote, in one incident late november tamerlan confronted a shop keeper in a middle eastern grocery store in cambridge near a mosque where he sometimes prayed after seeing a sign advertising thanksgiving turkeys. brother why did you put up the sign the shopkeeper recalled him asking angrily. it's not
his uncle said he ended his relationship with tamerlan in 2009 because of the quote radical crap" tamerlan had begun to espouse. he was steered toward a strict strain of islam in recent years and he began opposing the wars in afghanistan and iraq which is i should note here not radical in and of itself but that he also turned to websites and literature claiming that the cia was behind the terrorist attacks of september 11, 2001, that jews controlled the world. there are two very specific...
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the same age, in fact, as tamerlan. in dagestan. and he told the "globe" he was worried about the older brother being a bad influence on the younger brother and didn't think he was a good person. was concerned about that. he actually warned the younger brother, or so he claims, martin. >> michelle, let's listen to uncle ruslan tsarni who spoke earlier today. >> dzhokhar, if you're alive, turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness. from the victims, from the injured. >> michelle, there you have the uncle expressing regret, sadness and asking them to hand themselves in. and yet an aunt of the suspects who was interviewed in toronto, canada, says "i don't trust the fbi. show me the evidence. i am used to being set up. i'm a chechen." >> yeah, and neither of these people, those two that you mentioned, and one that we heard from at length, had spoken to these guys in years. so they want to obviously present their own -- their own views within what they're saying. i mean, you have that uncle -- it was a fascinating and stunningly strong sta
the same age, in fact, as tamerlan. in dagestan. and he told the "globe" he was worried about the older brother being a bad influence on the younger brother and didn't think he was a good person. was concerned about that. he actually warned the younger brother, or so he claims, martin. >> michelle, let's listen to uncle ruslan tsarni who spoke earlier today. >> dzhokhar, if you're alive, turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness. from the victims, from the injured. >>...
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tamerlan traveled to russia last year. stayed about six months. the big question right now, though is how did he spend his time there? an nbc news terrorist analyst, robin mcfadden served as the special agent in charge and deputy assistant director foreintelligence operations. good to have you both in the studio. you've been anne interrogator, we're been talking about this, the throat injury the suspect has, he's in serious condition. how do you interrogate someone who can't speak? you ask questions and they write on a pad? >> that's one possibility, but here we have just another challenge on top of a challenge under these circumstances. first and foremost, it's the medical clearance from the doctors working hand and glove with the personnel, the investigators on-scene and then once that medical clearance is given, and actually even before then, there could be a period where there's a personal connection, or a bond with -- i've been in situations before, serious injuries, but before there's a full medical clearance, could you actually be in the ro
tamerlan traveled to russia last year. stayed about six months. the big question right now, though is how did he spend his time there? an nbc news terrorist analyst, robin mcfadden served as the special agent in charge and deputy assistant director foreintelligence operations. good to have you both in the studio. you've been anne interrogator, we're been talking about this, the throat injury the suspect has, he's in serious condition. how do you interrogate someone who can't speak? you ask...
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any possible role tamerlan tsarnaev may have played. >> how could we miss all of the activity this guy engaged in? >> the fbi seized bbs and a large pyrotechnic. >> it was almost entirely done from the internet. >> he did not need to see his miranda rights read to him in bed. it's laughable. >> the enemy is radical islam. >> i'd waterboard him, myself. >>> you are about to look live at a press conference in boston. where governor deval patrick and mayor thomas menino are about to speak about the formation and purpose of the one fund boston campaign. designed to assist those who are affected by last week's bomb attacks. this takes place as dzhokhar tsarnaev lies in a hospital bed facing charges. his condition now reported as fair. more than a week after the bombing, 45 of the scores of wounded remain hospitalized, and at least 13 have lost limbs. for the victims, the physical and emotional toll comes with a very real financial one as well. massive bills for trauma care, prosthetic limbs and even home modifications. not to mention, lengthy physical rehab and psychological counseling. as
any possible role tamerlan tsarnaev may have played. >> how could we miss all of the activity this guy engaged in? >> the fbi seized bbs and a large pyrotechnic. >> it was almost entirely done from the internet. >> he did not need to see his miranda rights read to him in bed. it's laughable. >> the enemy is radical islam. >> i'd waterboard him, myself. >>> you are about to look live at a press conference in boston. where governor deval patrick and...
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the older man, tamerlan got out of the car. and with what authorities say appeared to be explosives strapped to his chest. he was shot by police. and then his brother, who was still in the car, simply pressed the accelerator to the floor and took off. and then at some point abandoned the car. there's some indication that he might have been wounded in that encounter with police. they can't be sure. because they don't know where he is. but they've seen some blood that indicates that maybe he was wounded. >> pete, i know we're going to have to let you go. but really quickly, they did carjack a mercedes suv at one point. and revealed themselves to be the two men behind the marathon bombing. do we know anything about the owner of that suv who was later released unharmed after spending half an hour with the two brothers? >> we do. we know who he is, we've decided not to name him since he's an innocent victim in all of this. but yes, he was just someone who happened to be driving around, unlucky to be in the place where they decided t
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towards her and there is an interesting question about what influence she had over tamerlan and the influence he had over his younger brother. >> and there are reports of the side story that friends of tamerlan think he may have been involved in a triple murder that took place in 2011 that took the life of one of his american friends, someone described as his best friend. what are authorities saying about that investigation because it was a cold case? >> i just spoke a little while ago to the district attorney's office and they confirmed it is an open and on going investigation. i think we have to be cautious on this one. the links are a bit tennious. apparently some relatives of one of the victims thinks there may be a connection based on comments from some of the friends but it is not clear exactly how close that the relationship was between one of the victims and tamerlan. there is some disputed reporting on that. and they are not confirming that tamerlan tsarnaev is a target or subject of the investigation right now. so i think right now we have to be a little cautious. i want t
towards her and there is an interesting question about what influence she had over tamerlan and the influence he had over his younger brother. >> and there are reports of the side story that friends of tamerlan think he may have been involved in a triple murder that took place in 2011 that took the life of one of his american friends, someone described as his best friend. what are authorities saying about that investigation because it was a cold case? >> i just spoke a little while...
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. >> family members say after talks with -- tamerlan seemed to have changed. became more radical in his views. who misha is we still don't know. >> truth is terror as a weapon is losing. >> how do we give asylum to people from islamic countries? >> we're going to have to cut off muslim students from coming to this country. >> should we really be teaching them nuclear physics? >> i want us to be able to go through this process in a way that does not demonize the entire religion. >> 90% of worldwide terrorism is radical islam. >> i find it funny that people who are angry at you over cutting off student visas are usually less angry about terrorists cutting off people's heads. >> everyone's been attacking us happens to be. >> islam is being hijacked by these people. >> these are not 6'7" norwegians. >>> good afternoon. we begin with the breakneck race to connect the dots in the boston marathon bombing. to bring a case against the perpetrators and to prevent such acts going forward. at this moment, the house intelligence committee is gathering for a closed briefing
. >> family members say after talks with -- tamerlan seemed to have changed. became more radical in his views. who misha is we still don't know. >> truth is terror as a weapon is losing. >> how do we give asylum to people from islamic countries? >> we're going to have to cut off muslim students from coming to this country. >> should we really be teaching them nuclear physics? >> i want us to be able to go through this process in a way that does not demonize...
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tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as they can. what were they up to in the months leading up to the bombing, what did they do afterwards, did they talk about plans? were they in touch with other people? the quick answer to your question is we don't believe they are have. her lawyer says he's in touch with the federal authorities now trying to work out details of that. they are going to get to her. they will interview her. she, she can be subpoenaed if necessary. so that, that will be done. >> and there are conflicting reports of extensive reporting and a
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what more she can reveal about tamerlan? >> they want to talk to all of his relatives, all his family members, all his friends. anyone who knew him and would have any information about what he was doing in the months -- what both of them were doing in the months before the bombing and then after the bombing until the events started to unfold thursday night. her lawyer says she's been in touch with federal authorities and they're trying to work that out. they believe she'll have important information. she'll be able to say when did her husband become radicalizrad >> thank you, sir. joining me now is an msnbc news terrorism expert. the boston globe is reporting about two incidents, the other brother, tamerlan, had these angry outburst at boston area mosques. as we look at the emerging evidence, things that are coming forward, not only through what witness accounts are revealing but the fact that we learned that the fbi had an opportunity to question tamerlan back in 2011. are we going to learn there was some missed red flags l
what more she can reveal about tamerlan? >> they want to talk to all of his relatives, all his family members, all his friends. anyone who knew him and would have any information about what he was doing in the months -- what both of them were doing in the months before the bombing and then after the bombing until the events started to unfold thursday night. her lawyer says she's been in touch with federal authorities and they're trying to work that out. they believe she'll have important...
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i did visit the cambridge mosque today where they attended and where tamerlan in particular had been disruptive on two occasions. in fact, as it was, at one point ordered to leave the mosque if he didn't start behaving himself because he was disrupting sermons. and was told the mosque has been cooperativing with the fbi. that the fbi has begun questioning members of the mosque, asking them about these incidents, looking to see if there were signs of connections to others, that he had colleagues or cohorts who were sympathetic to his views. but by and large, they say it's a moderate islamic mosque. that it very much feels in the american mainstream it celebrates american -- >> you would think, michael, that it's moderate if he was sat down and if he was warned there. certainly doesn't seem like a radical mosque to me, which is why being anti-muslim and anti-islamic is so absurd. but let me ask you something, eugene. i mean, you are the expert here. take me inside the investigation. because now this has come down to the ground as a regular, very intense police investigation. what's hap
i did visit the cambridge mosque today where they attended and where tamerlan in particular had been disruptive on two occasions. in fact, as it was, at one point ordered to leave the mosque if he didn't start behaving himself because he was disrupting sermons. and was told the mosque has been cooperativing with the fbi. that the fbi has begun questioning members of the mosque, asking them about these incidents, looking to see if there were signs of connections to others, that he had colleagues...
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tamerlan's family now trying to find a place to bury him. authorities released the body and the mosque the family attended in boston declined the request for a service. the associated press is reported that tamerlan fell under the influence of a mysterious radical in the years before the bombing. a muslim convert who steered him toward a strain of islam and reports this morning that the sole surviving suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev may want to be moved to another hospital because of the victims at the hospital are upset he is there. nbc news did not confirm that report. another report that dzhokhar sold pot on campus prior to the bombings and he sold that to make money to get by. joe biden is expected to attend a memorial service for sean collier killed by the bombing suspects allegedly and more healing. boylston street reopened earlier this morning. crews removed the barriers around 3:00 a.m. the site of the first explosion has been repaved and surrounded by construction cones. we'll hear from pete williams tracking down a new lead in this case.
tamerlan's family now trying to find a place to bury him. authorities released the body and the mosque the family attended in boston declined the request for a service. the associated press is reported that tamerlan fell under the influence of a mysterious radical in the years before the bombing. a muslim convert who steered him toward a strain of islam and reports this morning that the sole surviving suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev may want to be moved to another hospital because of the victims at...
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we're talking about tamerlan now. he was married. he was married to an american girl, a western girl, that he would spend the weekends with her family at their home up in rhode island. he had a 3-year-old daughter about whom he was reportedly, you know, crazy. in a good way. loved his daughter. so how does that sit with this man who is accused of doing these terrible things? >> well, this is somebody who led two lives. realize, your point is that he wasn't with that wife and daughter, and, you know, i think if we get down and i'm sure the fbi will, interview the wife, interview the wife's family if she's around, i think we're going to find out that there was an aspect of his personality that they never understood, they never knew, they never saw. you know, alex, a lot of us wear masks sometimes as to who we are. some of us never take that mask off and never reveal the rest of our character. i think this is one of those guys. >> interesting. so were you to be involved, clint, in the fbi investigation, what would be the first thing you
we're talking about tamerlan now. he was married. he was married to an american girl, a western girl, that he would spend the weekends with her family at their home up in rhode island. he had a 3-year-old daughter about whom he was reportedly, you know, crazy. in a good way. loved his daughter. so how does that sit with this man who is accused of doing these terrible things? >> well, this is somebody who led two lives. realize, your point is that he wasn't with that wife and daughter,...
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what happened in russia is going to be critical for tamerlan. the second part is the internal family dynamic here. the role of the mother, how other members of the family saw what was happening and what they did or did not -- >> the mother denies everything. >> well, she does. she also based on what we've seen from interviews was very, very devout and went on an extremist approach toward religion and toward the united states. clearly the relationship with her and tamerlan, the older brother, was important. and we're going to need to delve into that. >> you think she was an american hater? >> you know -- >> if you use common sense here. if you're going to kill a bunch of people, you probably hate them. >> i'm not saying she was involved in the conspiracy, chris. based on what she said in her public statements, she played a fascinating role in influencing her -- at least her older son and possibly her younger son. that -- we've got to be careful here, but what i've seen she's said publicly is pretty disturbing. >> okay. thank you so much, gentleme
what happened in russia is going to be critical for tamerlan. the second part is the internal family dynamic here. the role of the mother, how other members of the family saw what was happening and what they did or did not -- >> the mother denies everything. >> well, she does. she also based on what we've seen from interviews was very, very devout and went on an extremist approach toward religion and toward the united states. clearly the relationship with her and tamerlan, the older...
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at the shooting in watertown where tamerlan was killed, other explosives were found. a boston police commissioner says that's one reason he thinks the brothers planned other attacks. >> we got to step over some unexploded devices that they threw at the officers and i can only understand from that that they had other targets. they were going other places. >> that's nbc news' pete williams reporting. >>> well, today members of the house will get a top secret briefing on the boston bombings. meanwhile, the head of the senate intelligence committee is demanding the fbi explain why more wasn't done to investigate a tip that one of the suspects had possible extremist ties. nbc news' lieu russest -- lou russert is live with get good morning. >> reporter: thai, good morning, yes, senator dianne feinstein fired off a strongly worded note saying she is interested into why this individual, the 26-year-old older brother was permitted to take that trip to russia, come back into the country and not have further scrutiny. there is obviously a red flag that went up. some officials in
at the shooting in watertown where tamerlan was killed, other explosives were found. a boston police commissioner says that's one reason he thinks the brothers planned other attacks. >> we got to step over some unexploded devices that they threw at the officers and i can only understand from that that they had other targets. they were going other places. >> that's nbc news' pete williams reporting. >>> well, today members of the house will get a top secret briefing on the...
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government more than once about tamerlan tsarnaev, it may be different agencies involved. there are questions we are hearing from republican members wanting to know more about what nbi may have known when the suspect who is now deceased came back from russia after a six-month trip. questions about, was there any way that more information might have been available. in talking to other senators, they point out that they get like 20,000 tips to the intelligence community that get rundown about these various potential suspects or people to watch for. senator feinstein also said that tamerlan tsarnaev was on a watch list but he fell off that list because if after a year, there was no reason to suspect the person, they drop off the list. so those are some of the details we are hearing in conversations. >> and kelly, that sound like the substantive inquiry. what about the temperature? would you say people on the hill or generally respectfully proceeding now? or is there a temperature raising and concerns about whether we knew everything we could have known in advance? >> well, th
government more than once about tamerlan tsarnaev, it may be different agencies involved. there are questions we are hearing from republican members wanting to know more about what nbi may have known when the suspect who is now deceased came back from russia after a six-month trip. questions about, was there any way that more information might have been available. in talking to other senators, they point out that they get like 20,000 tips to the intelligence community that get rundown about...
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so that when tamerlan, last year tamerlan tsarnaev went to fly to moscow, the u.s. government knew about it because it pinged in the data base. but u.s. officials looked that and said, well okay, he is flying. we check need him and there isn't anything there. i guess there's a couple of questions there. in a situation like this, where you get a request from a foreign government, should there be more -- looking into it, if there is subsequent travel. that cuts both ways. several members of congress have said, they get like 20,000 tips of these tips a year, individual agent, assigned to people get something like a hundred of them a week. and if you keep adding to that list, does that become an unmathageable workload. that's one question. but the second question is, what about some of these radical things that tamerlan tsarnaev was known to be putting on his website? some of these outspoken jihadist advocates overseas, should there be some way it keep more track when people post things to their websites, of noted radicals overseas. that's a tricky area. because its pro
so that when tamerlan, last year tamerlan tsarnaev went to fly to moscow, the u.s. government knew about it because it pinged in the data base. but u.s. officials looked that and said, well okay, he is flying. we check need him and there isn't anything there. i guess there's a couple of questions there. in a situation like this, where you get a request from a foreign government, should there be more -- looking into it, if there is subsequent travel. that cuts both ways. several members of...
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after his older brother, tamerlan, was killed in a shootout with police early this morning. police are going door-to-door in the boston suburb of watertown where tsarnaev was last seen. the area has seen intense police activity all day long. a metro
after his older brother, tamerlan, was killed in a shootout with police early this morning. police are going door-to-door in the boston suburb of watertown where tsarnaev was last seen. the area has seen intense police activity all day long. a metro
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tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman mike rogers, now we have more information about some evidence of him sort of dropping out of society, as it were, information after he comes back from foreign travel, postings on his youtube account and other social media indicating that he had exposure to jihadist elements whether that's connect canned to chechnya and the struggles there or otherwise. what do you know this morning and what do you want to know? >> it's important to understand why, in fact, the fbi interviewed him in the first place. so they had information from a foreign intelligence service that they were con
tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman...
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tamerlan also started looking for a copy of a century-old anti-semitic text. tsarnaev also took an interest in info wars, a website started by alex joan, who has argued that the u.s. government trained, funded and protected bin laden, ordered the first world trade center bombing, and carried out the oklahoma city bombing to blame the right wing. alex jones responding to the report that tamerlan tsarnaev listened to his radio shows responded by claiming that the report is part of a government conspiracy. jones told buzzfeed i've seen this before, the federal government trying to connect me to tragedies. while both outlandish and despicable, made-up conspiracies can have destructive consequences. salon writes, the ideology of al qaeda, which seems to be the primary influence in the tsarnaev plot can be seen as a conspiracy theory itself, which places the united states at the center of all evil knit world, even the extermination campaigns of the third reich were essentially built on a conspiracy theory, but a byproduct of the boston bombing has been to bolters an
tamerlan also started looking for a copy of a century-old anti-semitic text. tsarnaev also took an interest in info wars, a website started by alex joan, who has argued that the u.s. government trained, funded and protected bin laden, ordered the first world trade center bombing, and carried out the oklahoma city bombing to blame the right wing. alex jones responding to the report that tamerlan tsarnaev listened to his radio shows responded by claiming that the report is part of a government...
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interviews tamerlan and the family. comes up with nothing. goes back to the russians and says, you know, we got nothing here. what else do you have? the russians don't respond. the fbi a second time asks them for something. then in september of 2011 the russians make exactly the same request, but this time they go to the cia. perhaps thinking they'll get a different response. the cia sends that over to the fbi. the fbi says we've already looked into this. there isn't anything. but, again, they say they asked the russians what more do you have? give us more, we'll chase it down. again, they say, the russians don't respond. as a result of these two requests to the fbi and cia, his name did go into a terrorism database. the sort of master terrorism tip database. so that when he did fly to moscow last january, the government knew about that. but it didn't take any action either when he left or when he came back because the case was considered closed. so that's what they did. now, here's the policy question. many members of congress are saying, we
interviews tamerlan and the family. comes up with nothing. goes back to the russians and says, you know, we got nothing here. what else do you have? the russians don't respond. the fbi a second time asks them for something. then in september of 2011 the russians make exactly the same request, but this time they go to the cia. perhaps thinking they'll get a different response. the cia sends that over to the fbi. the fbi says we've already looked into this. there isn't anything. but, again, they...
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that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he was ever put on a watch list. i guess there's two ways to look at this. the individual specifics about precisely how this was handled, but if you step back, there's a larger question here. that is when a foreign government gives us potentially derogatory information about someone, stop right there. should that create an entry for that person in the system? then keep going down the process. here, the fbi says they looked thoroughly at him, as much as they were allowed to do during this legal operation they're going in in this initial threat assessment. they find nothing. should that keep the listing, the watch listing active? or should it go away? these are and then if that person then flies to the country that
that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he was ever put on a watch list. i guess there's two ways to look at this. the individual specifics about...
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"the new york times" reports that after the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem to have succeeded in putting a major u.s. city on lockdown, it may now dawn on al qaeda leaders that a series of small-scale attacks like this conversation the same impact as one spectacular mass casualty attack. through a combination of skill and luck, we've done well at preventing the next 9/11. preventing the next boston massacre might not be as easy. joining me today, former dnc communications director and msnbc host, karen finney, "new york times" op-ed columnist frank bruney, retired army sergeant wes moore and "mother jones" msnbc political analyst, david corn and msnbc justice correspondent, pete williams. let'
"the new york times" reports that after the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem...
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of the bombings, 11 minutes before the first bomb went off, a surveillance camera shows dzhokhar and tamerlan tsarnaev walking toward the boston marathon finish line with backpacks. then a surveillance camera mounted on the restaurant nearby captures crucial pieces of evidence. seven minutes before the first bombing the video which still hasn't been released shows dzhokhar walking toward the second bombing site. three minutes later he works his way into the crowd and takes his backpack off. the fbi says still photos show the backpack on the ground at his feet. when the first bomb goes off, tsarnaev remains calm as the people around him respond to the blast. he walks away without his backpack and ten second later the second bomb goes off in the spot where he left the backpack. complaint reveals that agents searched dzhokhar tsarnaev's u. mass dartmouth dorm room and they found bbs and large pyro tech. investigators found a bomb of the same brand of pressure cooker used in the bombs in the thursday night shoot-out. >> within minutes i had six of my officers, four on duty, two off duty, that are
of the bombings, 11 minutes before the first bomb went off, a surveillance camera shows dzhokhar and tamerlan tsarnaev walking toward the boston marathon finish line with backpacks. then a surveillance camera mounted on the restaurant nearby captures crucial pieces of evidence. seven minutes before the first bombing the video which still hasn't been released shows dzhokhar walking toward the second bombing site. three minutes later he works his way into the crowd and takes his backpack off. the...
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officials say his older brother tamerlan spent time on jihadist websites reading extremist propaganda including inspire magazine, which is aimed at aspiring lone wolf terrorists. the last fatal victim, m.i.t. officer sean collier was laid to rest today in massachusetts. his casket watched over by a police honor guard. the mourners were led by collier's parents and five siblings. vice president joe biden will attend a public memorial tomorrow. 8-year-old martin richard was also laid to rest this morning in a private funeral. a public memorial is also being planned. as for the survivors, amazingly, only one victim is still in critical condition. 45 remain hospitalized. of the total 264 injured, boston public health commission says the number of injured has increased because some victims delayed getting medical attention and are just now seeing a doctor. boston's recovery continues as the six-block area around the marathon finish line is now reopened to businesses and residents for the first time since the attack. nbc news national investigative correspondent mike isikoff remains in bost
officials say his older brother tamerlan spent time on jihadist websites reading extremist propaganda including inspire magazine, which is aimed at aspiring lone wolf terrorists. the last fatal victim, m.i.t. officer sean collier was laid to rest today in massachusetts. his casket watched over by a police honor guard. the mourners were led by collier's parents and five siblings. vice president joe biden will attend a public memorial tomorrow. 8-year-old martin richard was also laid to rest this...
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the chase ended when authorities shot and killed 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. nbc's pete williams reports he was run over by the car driven by his brother. and when police approached his body, they discovered an ied strapped to his chest. he was transported to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. let's bring in nbc national investigative correspondent, michael isikoff. let's talk about what we foe in the scene right now. the police have said they have new leads within the last few minutes that they are exploring and that they want everyone to stay inside. >> exactly. a pretty good sign that this situation is still very fluid, still very tense. and we don't know where it's going or how long the manhunt is going to be taking place. i should point out, andrea, that i am right behind what is the principal staging area for the police and the military here. all morning long we had convoys of military humvees coming in, buses of police, motorcycles, of state police, blackhawk helicopters have been flying in and over this area. landing just behind me on the other
the chase ended when authorities shot and killed 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. nbc's pete williams reports he was run over by the car driven by his brother. and when police approached his body, they discovered an ied strapped to his chest. he was transported to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. let's bring in nbc national investigative correspondent, michael isikoff. let's talk about what we foe in the scene right now. the police have said they have new leads within the last few...
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one brother in particular, tamerlan, became increasingly radicalized over the last several years. we know now that the russian government expressed concern about him back in 2011. they warned the fbi he was a follower of radical islam. the fbi's investigation never turned up anything significant. tsarnaev traveled to the troubled region of dagestan for six months. it's where his parents live. it's a hub of jihadist recruitment generally. "the new york times" wrote yesterday -- actually, today. back home in the u.s., tsarnaev became more radicalized. "the boston globe" reports he disrupted conversations at his local cambridge mosque with outbursts of radical theology and created a youtube page. how did this lead up to the boston marathon a week ago? richard engel is nbc news' chief foreign correspondent. david is editor of the "new yorker" magazine. i want to start with richard, then to david. richard, why did the russians let him in if he was a problem for them a year earlier? >> it's common where you have governments watching people to give them some slack, to let them travel, to
one brother in particular, tamerlan, became increasingly radicalized over the last several years. we know now that the russian government expressed concern about him back in 2011. they warned the fbi he was a follower of radical islam. the fbi's investigation never turned up anything significant. tsarnaev traveled to the troubled region of dagestan for six months. it's where his parents live. it's a hub of jihadist recruitment generally. "the new york times" wrote yesterday --...
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tamerlan from dagestan where his father and mother still live. in an interview with "the wall street journal" their mother said tamerlan had given your boxing and drinking and smoking as he turned to a religious life and told the paper he phoned her the night he died saying, quote, the police, they have started shooting at us. they are chasing us. telling her he loved her before the phone went silent. and his uncle who lives in maryland says he believes the older brother became radicalized in cambridge and not overseas and eventually drew in his younger brother. a lot of questions how to handle the remaining suspect. >> david wrote, you wrote about the culprits. >> yeah, i spent friday looking at a lot of the youtube web sites and so on that had been visited by tamerlan and they were -- they were all jihadists. no question he was spending a lot of time looking at and listening to really highly radical islamist preachers, video that al qaeda has put out and not so private interest. he was talking about this with a circle of friends both at his mos
tamerlan from dagestan where his father and mother still live. in an interview with "the wall street journal" their mother said tamerlan had given your boxing and drinking and smoking as he turned to a religious life and told the paper he phoned her the night he died saying, quote, the police, they have started shooting at us. they are chasing us. telling her he loved her before the phone went silent. and his uncle who lives in maryland says he believes the older brother became...
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number number one, his brother was 26-year-olds, tamerlan. one was born in curd stan and the other in russia. they have been living here in this country for about a decade. in watertown, nbc news justice correspondent and atf agent james cavanaugh and analyst roger cressy. live in watertown, we were listening together as kerry sanders was moved further and further back. what are you seeing? >> he is a few blocks away from here, but we are not hearing anything that he is hearing. it's quiet in this part of watertown. the helicopter that had been circling for the past few hours is no longer here. we have seen tactical units leave and others come back in. we haven't seen anything like kerry has been seeing a few blocks away from where we are standing. we don't want to give away too much because the police asked that we don't give out tactical information, but we are going on hour ten of a lockdown. people are not outside. maybe all of four or five residents come around to the area. that's very unusual whenever there is a media staging area peopl
number number one, his brother was 26-year-olds, tamerlan. one was born in curd stan and the other in russia. they have been living here in this country for about a decade. in watertown, nbc news justice correspondent and atf agent james cavanaugh and analyst roger cressy. live in watertown, we were listening together as kerry sanders was moved further and further back. what are you seeing? >> he is a few blocks away from here, but we are not hearing anything that he is hearing. it's...
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an employee at a fireworks company shows tamerlan tsarnaev bought four dozen large fireworks at a store in new hampshire in february. >> it was a little disturbing that i had an interaction with him. he was just an every-day customer. i dealt with him the same way i would deal with anybody off the street. >> reporter: several online instructions including the one in "inspire" recommended using the contents of fireworks as a component. 5,000 miles away, fbi agents were in the russian province of dagestan to interview the parents of the bombing suspects. the mother insists her sons could not be terrorists. >> what's happened is a terrible thing but i know that my kids have nothing to do with this. i know it. i'm mother. >> that was nbc's pete williams reporting. >>> charges against the mississippi man accused of sending ricin-laced letters to president obama and senator wicker has been dropped. investigators are looking at the home of a new suspect. tracie potts has the latest. >> reporter: good morning. dropped apparently for lack of evidence. they searched the suspect's home and found n
an employee at a fireworks company shows tamerlan tsarnaev bought four dozen large fireworks at a store in new hampshire in february. >> it was a little disturbing that i had an interaction with him. he was just an every-day customer. i dealt with him the same way i would deal with anybody off the street. >> reporter: several online instructions including the one in "inspire" recommended using the contents of fireworks as a component. 5,000 miles away, fbi agents were in...
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tamerlan tsarnaev had bnd killed in a shootout. the break in finding his younger brother came from a wathertown person out having a smoke. dave saw his tarp being kicked out, he saw blood on the boat, he climb on a crate to peer in and saw the wounded person and he called police to with the tip that could lead to the capture of dzhokhar tsarnaev. joining me on the phone,s in nbc and boston native, mike bar kl. congressman, let me start with you. boy, i tell you, you look at that community and you just saw what big poppy had to say. what's your feeling today after the capture of one suspect and the killing of another? >> reporter: like everyone else, relief and truly looking forward to getting back to some sort of a normal life in the boston area knowing full well we've got a fee friends an family injured and lost a few of our friends an family, trying to take care of them as well. >> one of the ways people take care of themselves is try to get back to normal. i understand there is a wedding at fenway, neil diamond was at fenway. >>
tamerlan tsarnaev had bnd killed in a shootout. the break in finding his younger brother came from a wathertown person out having a smoke. dave saw his tarp being kicked out, he saw blood on the boat, he climb on a crate to peer in and saw the wounded person and he called police to with the tip that could lead to the capture of dzhokhar tsarnaev. joining me on the phone,s in nbc and boston native, mike bar kl. congressman, let me start with you. boy, i tell you, you look at that community and...
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been questioning members and that the mosque has provided the names of at least three members who saw tamerlan disrupt services at the mosque. the most recent was on martin luther king day. he called a speaker a non-believer and a hypocrite because he compared martin luther king to the prophet mohamed. leaders of the congregation told him he should not come back if he was going to disrupt services. he did return in the last month but didn't cause any more problems. joining me now is terrorist analyst michael lighter, former director of the national counterterrorism center under presidents bush ask obama and msnbc's joy reid. michael, what do you make of the totality of the incident as it exists tonight? >> it is quite clear the fbi is developing an credibly strong case here. although we can't say for sure yet, it's almost certain that the older brother was the first who was radicalized, inspired by the same messages that has inspired other home-grown extremists and followers of al qaeda. an extremist suni islamic idealogy which is a warping of the muslim faith and drove them ultimately to view
been questioning members and that the mosque has provided the names of at least three members who saw tamerlan disrupt services at the mosque. the most recent was on martin luther king day. he called a speaker a non-believer and a hypocrite because he compared martin luther king to the prophet mohamed. leaders of the congregation told him he should not come back if he was going to disrupt services. he did return in the last month but didn't cause any more problems. joining me now is terrorist...
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the two brothers, the one who was killed last night tamerlan tsarnaev. the man police are looking for at this hour is dzhokhar tsarnaev, identified by the fbi as wearing the white hat, as you can see in the photograph there. those were the photographs from the scene on monday at the boston marathon that were made public by the fbi last night. dzhokhar the man at large has a massachusetts driver's license and was born in kyrgyzstan. they came to the u.s. with their family in 2002, 2003. may have been here well over a decade in the united states. >> and has left a trail of devastation in their wake. pete williams also saying that this chase last night, which culminated and still continues now, but culminated in a huge shootout with the sounds of gunfire and explosives ringing through the streets of watertown in the dark of night. these guys were the ones who started this by potentially a realizing their faces were out there and if they wanted to make another mark or make a break for it, they had to do it right away. it involved them robbing a 7-eleven, car
the two brothers, the one who was killed last night tamerlan tsarnaev. the man police are looking for at this hour is dzhokhar tsarnaev, identified by the fbi as wearing the white hat, as you can see in the photograph there. those were the photographs from the scene on monday at the boston marathon that were made public by the fbi last night. dzhokhar the man at large has a massachusetts driver's license and was born in kyrgyzstan. they came to the u.s. with their family in 2002, 2003. may have...
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tamerlan went back to his house. and you would not have known they had just conducted one of the most significant terrorist attacks on u.s. soil. so the psychological profile here is something that's also going to get a tremendous amount of attention. >> we have from pete williams the breaking news that he is, the suspect they currently have is cooperating, saying they acted alone, they did not have any foreign assistance, they didn't seek any foreign guidance, got instructions for bomb making on the internet. do the facts as you know them now synch with that? >> yeah, from what we know i think that is all part and parcel of the story, and i think also we would have heard pre-miranda whether or not during the public safety exception if he had provided any information about imminent threat, additional plans, additional co-conspirators. because we haven't heard from any government sources on it, we should conclude there was nothing else in terms of imminent threat. the next step is to get all of the statements from tsa
tamerlan went back to his house. and you would not have known they had just conducted one of the most significant terrorist attacks on u.s. soil. so the psychological profile here is something that's also going to get a tremendous amount of attention. >> we have from pete williams the breaking news that he is, the suspect they currently have is cooperating, saying they acted alone, they did not have any foreign assistance, they didn't seek any foreign guidance, got instructions for bomb...
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unprecedented set of events that ended with a surprisingly subdued ending on friday night. 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev was pronounced dead after a dramatic shootout with law enforcement early friday morning. his 19-year-old dzhokhar escaped on foot precipitating a shelter in place order for the entire boston area. but the much sought after armed and dangerous teen was found wounded and incoherent in a boat parked in the backyard of a suburban watertown home. discovered not by the hundreds of armed officers who had been searching for him for hours but by the home's owner, reportedly out for a smoke. with one assailant dead and the other in police custody, the people of watertown and the entire boston area expressed their enormous gratitude and sense of relief with spontaneous cheers and applause on friday night. the crisis is over. now the politics begin and this is where our responsibility in the media shifts. in the heat of the crisis, media take on the job of informational clearinghouse, keeping the public up to date, sharing critical information and get the information out right and fast.
unprecedented set of events that ended with a surprisingly subdued ending on friday night. 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev was pronounced dead after a dramatic shootout with law enforcement early friday morning. his 19-year-old dzhokhar escaped on foot precipitating a shelter in place order for the entire boston area. but the much sought after armed and dangerous teen was found wounded and incoherent in a boat parked in the backyard of a suburban watertown home. discovered not by the hundreds of...